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oil spill. the national hurricane center has announced the first tropical depression of the atlantic season it has formed in the western caribbean. forecast to strengthen and move into the gulf of mexico. the questions now, how close will it come to the spill site, and where might it hit land? meteorologist karen mcginnis in cnn hurricane headquarters with the latest. >> just about an hour ago, the national hurricane center says this is the first tropical depression of the season. what do we anticipate? right now, supporting winds of 35 miles an hour, but before it's expected to make landfall, perhaps later on this evening or into saturday, it could reach tropical storm strength. move across the yucatan, as it does that, it will move back into the very warm waters of the gulf of mexico, and we think maybe tuesday, going into wednesday, this could be at tropical storm strength. now, i will tell you, computer models are a little divided as to what happens here. either way, we're about three to four days away from our concern
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being really increased, because this could be at tropical storm intensity. hurricane hunters went in, investigated it, and said, yes, it does look like there is low-level circulation. does look stronger, bar met rick pressure dropping and that fuels these systems. >> so often when we see storms like this, what we're worry btd is where will it hit land, what force will it be. but in this case, have you so much of the recovery operations in the waters in the gulf of mexico, at ground zero where the spill occurred, some of the skimming operations in the gulf, from louisiana to florida. if this storm turns into the middle of the gulf where you have that mat, what are we talking about in the likely strength of winds and the problems that could cause at the water level? >> it is going to be very prop attic. getting the skimmer boats and all of the other nautical ships out of the water or at least
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towards shore, towards safety, that's a big adventure in itself. where those booms are, well, it took them weeks and weeks to unload these booms, and they can't do it within a day or two, so, yes, that's another problem. it's sort of two steps forward, maybe three steps back at this point in time. i will tell you, john, that the computer models right now, half of them are suggesting this will go to the east of the slick. the preferred track, and the other half of the models generally speaking are submitting the difference, perhaps going to the west of the slick, which would further on shore and some of the areas that are untouched until now. >> preferred track one way that would actual until many cases pull the oil away from shore if it takes that left track you're noting and then you're talking about the areas of louisiana and the western boot, if you will, perhaps being affected, is that right? >> correct, yes. these tropical systems, they
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turn in a counterclockwise circulation. so if we're on the eastern edge of the slick that would have a tendency to throw some of that oil further away from shore. however, if it does folsom of these other tracks, then what we're looking at essentially would be throwing that oil further on shore and maybe a little further towards the east, maybe towards the florida panhandle. right now, i do have to emphasize, it is too early to tell, but the computer models over the next several days are sort of going to come together, so i think we'll know, or at least have a much, much better idea as we go into sunday and into monday. but as you were mentioning, so many booms. so many, many miles of booms that, that is really -- kind of hampers the process we've gone through. >> karen maginis in the cnn hurricane center, and i went over to the magic wall. what is the plan in place?
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i want to show you right here, we've been watching this map over the 80-plus days because of the oil spill. this read spot is ground zero, where there are dozens of ships on the water. "the discovery enterprise," getting the oil coming up from the containment cap, so many other skimming ships out here, support ships out here. the national incident commander, thad allen, said if they get a forecast that says heavy winds and forecasts come this way, they have a plan, that in terms, unfortunately, of the recovery effort, requires everyone to get off site. >> we have a very robust contingency plan. in general, our threshold to take action is 120 hours before gale force wind are forecast. that can be different mileage, depending on the track and speed
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of the storm. we will start to redeploy the equipment from the well site, redeploy other equipment to safe venues so they can come in after the storm to re-establish production or take part in rescue activities. >> national incident commander, thad allen there. what about the states in the path? one path has it coming right here into the pensacola, florida, area. standing by for us is the state meteorologist in florida, amy gotsby, helping the department of emergency management. tell us what you are being told about the possible path of this storm, and what you have to do to prepare? >> the state of florida is currently forming tropical depression 1. it's currently 900 miles south/southeast offshore and a little further than that from the florida panhandle coast. florida stands ready to handle any potential tropical system and its associated impacts with ongoing impacts with deepwater
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horizon. the safety of workers and the citizens of florida is our number one concern. if we see one of the more eastward tracks, a computer model suggests, a track more toward florida, the models remain diverged after it goes across the yucatan peninsula. historically, storms that move across the yucatan move westward, because they weaken as they interact with land. but as your meteorologist says, the waters are warm and it will have plenty of room to regain strength and be possibly pulled more northward, whether it takes a track to the west or toward the east, more toward florida, all of the considerations have to go into place as to what we could for florida residents, should evacuation orders need to be put in place, but also, again, safety of our workers and ongoing operations associated with deepwater horizon. >> we want to go to one of those men that will lead the response
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action. grover escambia joins us from pensacola. mr. robinson, some of the areas where you have the barrier islands or peninsula ka thaw comes out protecting your areas, some booms are relatively flimsy if you get a storm that comes your way, they will be thrown abo about. what is your greatest fear at the moment? >> thank you, john. i want to thank you for bringing awareness to the gulf coast. again, a hurricane is employing to be very difficult for us. we have to find a way to maneuver, change things, and we won't be able to fight the oil for a kwouchl dacouple of days. and we don't have any idea what it will do to the oil in the gulf. those are big concerns for us. we'll do what we always do. buckle down, prepare and be
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ready for it. and get up after it after it's over. >> when i was down there, you go into some of the marshlands in here where the oyster beds are, and you come to escambia pass, where you are worried about the oil getting in to the sensitive areas. a lot of the booms have pretty low curtains, a couple of feet under the water and a lot of absorption things are just essentially circular absorbing materials. in a heavy wind, they would be thrown around in a heartbeat. do you have enough backup? >> we would probably have to bring those things in out of the gulf. you're exactly right them would not withstand the conditions we're talking about. you are talking about taking time and injury to pull out the things that you have put in. so these are challenges that we would be there if this stuff gets over the barrier islands and into the inland waters, it will be very difficult for us to deal with in that process. we're obviously very concerned, but like so many things of this
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process, we cannot control the winds and the current. we just have to be prepared to deal with as best we can with them as they come in. >> and you have the coast guard in, the state officials in. you obviously have all of the technology at your disposal. when you look at the calendar as we talk on a friday night, based on what we know with this storm, what date on the calendar will you be making decisions about having to redeploy resources? >> i think it's probably the next day or two. probably the next 48 hours or so, we'll know what's happening. we've been watching it, looking although at it, been on our minds. but we're trying to get some kind of idea. just what you said with your meteorologist there, the uncertainty, knowing where it goes, we're already preparing for it but we don't really know what we're going to have to do pulling the frigger.
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it's how much time we have and what we can do. the good thing is, unlike oil what we're learn owning. we know hurricanes. we know what we have to do. it's a different path with the oil there, but we understand hurricanes and we know what we need to do, and we'll prepare for it the way we need to as floridians. >> we appreciate your time. we wish you the best in the hours ahead and days ahead as this storm moves into the gulf of mexico. best of luck. we'll take a quick break. stay on top of the story throughout the night. first tropical depression forming in the atlantic, making its way toward the gulf of mexico. potentially significantly complicating the oil spill response and recovery efforts. when we come back, we move on to another challenge. the president is in canada but before he left, he said take a look. i have a long list of political achievements. will that help him in a tough year for the democrats? we'll ask, when we come back. wow!
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the country's current political move. for a president whose approval rating are so so, it was a chance to assert a record of big achievements. >> over the past 17 months, we've passed an economic recovery act, health insurance reform, education reform and we're now on the brink of passing wall street reform. >> it is an impressive list. the problem is, many of you don't see if as a big plus in your life. right now, nearly three-quarters of americans say things in the country are going badly. is the president failing to get his due, or has his approach fallen out of favor. here is former clinton communications don baird. cnn contributor eric eriksson of the conservativeredstate.com. and as a democrat that worked in a white house that said we're not getting our due and suffered a drubbing in a mid term election year a lot like this,
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why -- it is an impressive list, especially if you are aligned with this president. health care reform, on the verge of wall street reform. why if you go out and look at the public, do people go eh. >> i remember the long list of achievements we had to put into the speeches, it's beginning register, set in with people that the president knows how to do this job, things are beginning mount up. but you have to by clear about this. until the economy gibbs to turn in a more decisive way with jobs, when have you near 10% unemployment it will be hard for the registration to sink in with people. >> you buy them? when it sinks in, people will like it more? >> it will not translate to main street. one thing to beat up wall street. even in australia with the replacement of the prime minister, a lot of people think attacks on wall street are attacks on the wealthy, and if i get attacked when i become
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successful, it will hurt me. >> i think financial regulation is very popular. 60% of the american public is for financial regulation. the interesting thing, is people did vote for change. they are getting an awful lot of change at the same time they have economic anxiety, so they are not seeing health care reform, because a lot of it is back loaded. they don't see the benefits of it yet. they are worried about the stimulus package. some are worried about the bank bailouts and the rest, so this, in next, the more he does, the more the public gets anxious. >> in a communications standpoint, in the sense he hasn't moved the dial. we're at the halfway point in the critical mid term election and look at these numbers. this is from the pew research center. approval rating in january, 49%. now 48%. approval rating on the economy. january, 42%. now, 43%. approval on health care. january, 3 8%, now 42%.
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a slight up tick on health care, otherwise hasn't moved the dial at all. i thought he was the premier politician of his generation? >> these things don't happen overnight. >> four to six months? >> this is about the moving picture. i think you will see movement by the time november comes around. they have the raw material to say we've cleared the underbrush. worked through a lot of big problems and issues that we inherited. we put in place a new foundation. will he translate that into our forward going economic growth agenda that will create jobs, drive innovation, and make america stronger. he has to link what he has done with what he's going to do. >> i think when american people get to november and they look at the debt this is why the tea party exists, the debt that we're leaving to the country. and when these numbers come through, i guarantee you before november, we'll have this
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argument again, over more debt. >> that's the republican narrative, he's a big-spending liberal. and all of these big programs are big spending liberal programs. but their narrative will be compared to what? would you like joe barton, who has apologized to bp, as rahm emanuel pointed out, the white house chief of staff? >> that's why bob bennett in utah is trying to change the face of the game. >> there are democrats in this white house, don, say this is is a more impressive list than bill clinton had in eight years in the white house much a, do you buy that? and b, do you have to keep selling the message? >> let me say 23 million new jobs in eight years is a pretty impressive list. >> you don't want to go there. >> let me -- let me -- let me invoke bill clinton here. one of his most important truisms elections are about the future and not the past. the winner going into the next election cycle will be the party
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and individuals talking about what are we going to do next for you. what the obama white house has is strong proof point, when we say we're going to do something, we deliver. when we say we'll grow the economy, create innovation, create jobs, have you greater trust in us. >> except i don't think they do 41,000 jobs created since last time, except for in government, the census group. the deliverables aren't living up to the rhetoric. >> here is the san diego thing about president obama. democrats may take a drubbing in the mid terms elections, if you look at the numbers, he still remains popular in most of his policies. people still like barack obama. the democrats may get hurt, but in 201 2shg t2 the republicans come up with somebody -- >> we're running late on time.
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and many people say that when republicans took the house it did help president clinton. >> helped him terrifically. we brought him back to the center as a new democrat. something else happened. he was forced into a position where he demonstrated how he could perform without legislation. he would couldn't pass anything, although we began to pass things once the parties begun to work together which is exactly what the country wants. a lot more to come op ton te program. i'll tell you this way. we'll go wall to wall to consider the major political victory. what wall street reform means for you and your bottom line. and then one-on-one with an interesting voice for the west, where democrats are hurting after big gains in 2008 to new mexico governor bill richardson. we'll be right back.
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first, breaking news in to cnn. the u.s. department of justice has asked the fifth circuit court of appeals to stay an order blocking the moratorium on deep water drilling. we move on to wall to wall
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tonight. what financial reform? the compromise agreement that the congress should sends to the president as early as next week, what does it mean to you? let's go to the details and then go to our ali velshi. the compromise has a new consumer financial protection burrow, and we have a volcker rule lite. too big to fail protection, that's in the bill so we don't go through what we went through in 2008. snow derivatives regulation to keep the banks more transparent in some of the higher-risk investment trades that go through. benefits for retailers and cu s curbs. ali velshi is in toronto, and he is trying to take this bill to world leaders and say get your house in order too. i went through the highlights what is the most important thing here if you're the average family out there watching, saying is this about wall street or about me?
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>> well, it's actually about you, even though a big part of this is consumer financial protections and making that clearer, the reality is, it's all the other stuff that doesn't sound like it's about you that's actually interesting. the rules on derivatives, on risky banking, because, really, the credit crisis of 2008 wasn't about you. but it ended up costing somebody you know a job. or cost you somehow. so bottom line is since we have since the great depression have done nothing tone hans financial regulation. this is really landmark legislation. nowhere near what the obama administration wanted it to be. what proponents of it wanted it to be, but the reality is it's a big step forward. major consumer financial protections in place. they'll streamline contracts and the way deals are made. at the same time, it is, as you mentioned, remarkable for president obama to walk in to this g-8 and g-20 meeting in canada because up until now, the
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world has been mad at america for being at the root of the financial crisis because it didn't have proper rules to govern financialentities. now president obama walks in with rules, and the world will be talking about bank capital. how much a bank has to have in deposits before it can risk more money and how many times under assets it can risk. all of this, john, is designed to keep the consumer that much safer. designed to create more transparency and take the alphabet soup of regulatory agencies and make it a more streamlined system so governors and regulators can see something is going wrong and get their hands on it earlier. no means does this give us enough to protect ourselves from the financial crisis we got in. in other words, even the new laws would not keep us from what we got into and let into the recession, john. >> ali velshi from the g-
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summit. and look at the money spent on lobbying. look at the last year, 2009, this was being debated and so far in 2010. you can bet that number will move up. lobbying by big commercial banks. you know these banks. bankers association, jpmorgan chase, citigroup, independent community bankers, bank of america, wells fargo. this is some series cash. significant reforms, most sweeping since the days after the great depression. wall street, many say, did not get as tight ra rein on it as some would hope. when we come back, more on the tropical depression. and one-on-one with one of america's best known governors. new mexico's governor bill richardson, standing by. eavy. bar bell! cookies! never fear civilians! a postal carrier!!
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we want to update you on breaking news. the first tropical depression has formed in the western caribbean. formed to hit the gulf of mexico, which means it could significantly impact the oil recovery efforts. karen magnificent innis, show u latest. >> the hurricane hunters sided this was significant enough, that they did issue an advisory depicting what is now tropical depression 1, winds supporting of 35 miles even hour. here is what has to happen. we have to watch this as it inches towards land, a little rough for tropical systems to survive, move over to the yucatan and if it makes it from there, it could become a tropical storm by tuesday, going into wednesday, but look at this cone of error this is a fairly broad-reaching area and if it becomes a tropical storm, then where does it go? we'll give you some idea of what
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we anticipate. we've got what's called the various models, plugged into computers, based on the intensity and local conditions and land masses and different variables and all kinds of data, now, part of the data suggests it is going to head towards the panhandle of florida. those are a few of the models. the other across the yucatan, the south central or-to-west central mexico at some point we'll converge and have a better idea, probably going into sunday. what we anticipate the system will do. does it become a tropical storm? could it become a hurricane? we don't want to hit the alarm just yet. but water temperatures are in the upper 80s. extraordinarily warm and this contributes to the development of tropical systems. >> focus on the storm that turns
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to the right in the spaghetti diagram. if that happens and it's an if, if, if. ground zero for the spill is there. the shores of pensacola, louisiana, alabama, where you have the booms out there, what are we talking about in terms of wind speed and conditions on the water because that's where the ships are? >> exactly. now, the ships are easier to deal with because they can go to shore without a lot of lead time. the booms, it's a couple of steps forward, several steps back. it took weeks and weeks and weeks to unfurl the booms in the gulf and they can't just automatically within a few hours or days be rolled back up. i'm sure some can, but as you mentioned, should it follow this trek more towards the panhandle, i wouldn't say it's the preferred way we anticipate, but if it were going to go on either side of this oil slick, john, with that circulation being counterclokwise, that means more
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of the oil would tend to flow further towards or into the gulf. as it goes to, and i'll point this out. if it does make its way just to the east of that slick, then we're looking at it maybe going into areas we haven't seen oil before. this is going to turn up the gulf of mexico. as it does that, we just got this whole volume of oil-covered gulf of mexico water that could have the potential to make its way further or deeper into the coastlines of florida. a lot of ifs here. we have gone into unchartered territory this is the most significant thing we have seen in such a long time and now with the tropics acting up, it's a different concern. >> thank you, karen. before we go to break, quickly, i want to show you what we're talking about. this is one area, pensacola, these booms designed to protect an oyster bed area.
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that's me out in the water in waders. boom is about two or three feet. and there's a curtain that goes down 18 inches into the water. i was able to lift them up and move them. if a tropical storm comes through, those are doing the lord's work protecting oyster beds and shrimp beds. those will blow away in a heartbeat. can f they can damaged, can you replace them. when we come back, one-on-one with governor bill richardson. if democrats in danger of losing the west because of washington's failure to deal with issues like immigration. we'll be back.
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it's time to go one-on-one.
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>> colorado, nevada, new mexico, helped put barack obama in the house. that was then. now disgust with washington is causing the president and democrats support out west this is the perfect time to go one-on-one with governor bill richardson. i want to start with the immigration issue. your colleague, jan brewer, was here recently. i know you disagree with the details of the arizona law, but do you agree with her basic premise. she said she was forred to act because the federal government has abysmally failed in protecting the border. is she right about that? >> there is frustration that the federal government is not acting, john. i face it too. but that's not president obama's fault. that's the congress' fault, which refuseds to deal with comprehensive immigration. i disagree with her premise. she shouldn't have signed that law, because that law is
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unconstitutional. it has caused enormous tension. it's a law that is flawed. and i think the first step has to be on immigration issue. president obama and his team need to challenge it legally. >> there are many states, including your own that allow people to get a driver's license without proving they are in the country legally. i asked if somebody is in your state and they get pulled over by your police for whatever reason and they have a valid driver's license, say it's from utah, new mexico, that enough i said if they show that and show they have a license, that enough, or do they have to have documentation they are here legally. listen to the government? >> it wouldn't matter if you were hispanic or norwegian. if the police officer had suspicion, they would ask to verify your citizenship. that's the way that it is. >> what kind of climate does it have, in the sense that if you're from new mexico and have you a driver's license, if
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you're latino, or someone might belief are you latino, you have to carry your passport or green card with you? >> that's what makes it racial profiling, john. you can have a new mexicoian or arizonan that has been in the state hundreds of years or generations and they are basically asked for their papers. that makes this law unconstitutional. what we need to do, john, and where i agree with governor brewer is that we need more border patrol, we need more national guard at the border, more detection equipment. we need laws that clamp down on those that hire illegals and we need a legalization program, where you are taking the 11 million that are here, if they pay back taxes, pass a background check, get behind the line, enforce american values, they get in the line, first those that applied legally. that's the only way to deal with the system. but what we've done in arizona,
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what has happened there is spreading around the country and you're going to have local mistake action that is basically federal, that is going to cause a lot of tension that, is basically unconstitutional. we have to protect our people. but we got to do it sensibly in a bipartisan way with a comprehensive bill, and the congress doesn't have the will to do this, and the president is ready to move, and our priorities this year, an energy bill, take credit for doing financial regulation. but do a comprehensive immigration reform bill, maybe right after the election, before christmas. they should do that. >> governor, what's happening out west with the democratic party? a lot of people said the west would become for the democrats what south was for the republicans in presidential polit politics. if you look at colorado, look at nevada, democratic numbers are down, president's numbers are down. has he done too much?
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government been too active, when you get out west, where people tend to be more libertarian? >> i think the president is doing good out west. president associated with a good environment, climate change issues, with technology and pushing immigration reform. a huge number of hispanics in the west. i think we'll be very competitive in the races in the west. harry reid i believe will win in nevada. we'll keep the governorships in new mexico and colorado. we even have a shot at a governorship in arizona with the attorney general running there. so i -- i don't believe that view that the west is not going to stay democratic. maybe our momentum has slowed down a little bit. if you recall, john, we turned over the west, major western states, going to president obama, and i think this libber te libbertarian streak, this action with general mcchrystal, who i
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believe was a great officer, doing a good job, it will help him, that individualistic, libertarian, strong, and i think actions like that help out here. >> we appreciate your time. we'll keep in touch as this unfolds. thank you, sir. next, your turn to join the conversation, about what we should expect from one of next week's biggest stories.
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every friday, the most important person you don't know, is you. it's part of our commitment to bring you into the conversation. every monday we ask you a question, and we give you all week to make your case by posting a video to our website, cnn.com/johnking usa. what would you ask elena kagan derg her confirmation hearing next week? >> i would like to know if she feels like the constitution is up for reinterpretation by
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supreme court justices, or is she liable to interpret it as the founding fathers intended it to be interpreted? >> what are you going to do for minorities? in the united states, the whole issue, especially in arizona, you know, what's going to happen to us? >> i think i would probably ask the question about how she feels about federal land in utah, and how that is going to impact the education of the kids in our state. >> pretty good mix of questions. let's talk it over. with us, susan molanari of new york, and senior correspondent dana bash. she was nominated, republicans, said a-ha, a liberal activist. and went into the yawn phase, and now a little more spice to it. >> as we followed your program with the weather happening in
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the gulf, normally the supreme court nominations take up so much time and energy in washington, d.c. and obviously people throughout the country are interested. it will be interesting to see how much space and air this storm will allow the supreme court nomination to go through. of course, it's his second, so that gets a little less attention than the first. after she was nominated and the conservative said she was way too liberal, the conser liberal said she is way too conservative. there is a significant portion of documents being withheld during her time in the clinton administration, some pertaining to arizona immigration laws in 2007. i think there will be some tough questioning as she's advocated in the past. >> no question, there will be tough questioning from conservatives, especially because they are getting pounded and pressured by conservative groups to ask the tough questions. as senator sessions, a ranking republican on the judiciary
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committee says this is not a coronation. no one thinks unless something remarkable happens is that she is not going to get confirmed. the question is whether some of the conservatives can at least give it the college try. >> she's been practicing, plague, as you might expect, several hours a day. we had an interesting conference call today. top white house lawyer. bob bauer and david ax axelrod had a conference call there will be a lot of pressure on one side or the other. i hope members much senate will look to some of the leading conservative law practitioners in the country and how they consider her a superb nominee. ken starr says she is qualified. does that matter, or -- >> of course it matters. but you do also have an obligation to ask questions. i pulled a quote from elena
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kagan who wrote in 1995, if the senate ceases to engage nominees in questions, she is understanding that it's their job to ask the tough questions, to present the american people as big and bold a picture of how this woman will -- >> no question that quote is going to come back -- that is -- we're going to hear that over and over and over again. i think you can bank on it, when senators try to ask her questions and she won't answer them. no matter what she said back then, that's what nominees do. >> the hottest spot for doing business with the obama white house isn't necessarily the oval office. it's this caribou coffee shop on pennsylvania avenue across from the white house and a few other nearby coffee houses. white house officials have met there hundreds of times with prominent lobbyists, the same
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people candidate obama said would be persona non grata in the executive mansion. remember this? >> part of what happens is that if you don't include the american people into the process. if they don't understand the choices that are available to us, then the lobbyists are empowered, go behind closed doors and block change from happening, and that's part of the reason why transparency and accountability is so important to me when i -- when i talk about government reform. because that's the way to empower the american people to bring about the change that is necessary. >> it's transparent and accountable if they go into the white house, but we have no record of who met with how many people. you happen to be a lobbyist. >> and i have not been invited for coffee. >> at caribou? >> they don't go to caribou coffee because they make foamier lattes than they do at the white house mess. anybody that is visiting the white house, you have to sign
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in, you have to get clearance and there's a record there. and you have to then if you are going to be transparent, say how many lobbyists have you met with. crossing the street, they have been too cute by half, saying they are not bringing lobbyists into the white house. >> i was e-mailing with a white house official about this. look, they say this is unfair. because they are raised the bar, they are held to a higher standard and the hypocrisy police are after them. >> if you raise the bar, don't you ask for that? >> i'm just telling you what they said. i spoke to a senior democratic official who said -- this is a quote. this shows the utter and complete stupidity of the rules that the white house set up regarding lobbyists. and you have heard this all over town, i'm sure you have too. what the white house tried to do was add a level of ethics to the rhetoric, but what they've also done is from the perspective of a lot of people is cut off some pretty good talent and informed
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people that could help them with policy and that might have hurt them. >> does it matter? do voters ever care about this stuff? we focus on it because it's a big process question in washington. do voters care about this? >> i think voters care about p hypocri hypocrisy. i don't think any president saw poll numbers drop because they met with lobbyists. when you set a bar and say they don't come in, you have to make sure you don't also cross the street. it's also the hypocrisy that gets you in trouble in this down. >> stand by one sec. does the government want to be able to flip a switch and kill the internet. we have an information superhighway investigation, when we return. but what good is savy if you don't put it to good use? ♪ the lexus hs is rated at a combined 35 miles per gallon but, more importantly, features hybrid technology that harnesses and reuses energy
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we want to keep you posted as we track a new tropical depression in the western caribbean. the national hurricane center has updated the forecast. it's predicted to hit the yucatan late saturday and emerge in the gulf sunday if it becomes a tropical storm it will be called alex, first of the season. the forecast models disagree if it will move northwest toward texas or northeast toward the gulf oil spill site and the coast of florida. here as an interesting question. no internet? congress is debating how long the president could shut down the net during an international security crisis? could you last, get through the day? pete dominic hit the floors. >> yeah, john king, the world without the internet? would you have a lot of brick-and-mortar establishments like this place, where, by the
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way i interned in college. mis miss, would you be all right without the internet? >> no. >> i would kill myself. >> no, don't do that. >> what would you do without the internet, sir? >> what i always do, go without pencil and paper. >> i would go to the library very quickly. >> i would save money. >> save money? >> she shops on line all the time. >> they need to get rid of the internet, it ruins people's lives. >> what is the last thing did you on the internet? >> sent a friend a letter. >> what would the interworld be like without the internet? >> sad, lonely. >> congress is considering what it would be like to shut down the internet due to cyber terrorism. >> no. >> what? >> no. >> youtube. cnn. >> facebook. >> facebook will come
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